Richard Le Utlawe - 1260 - Essex

1260 - Witness Richard le Utlawe - Essex - Grant of Rent William de Wateville to John de Vallibus and his heirs of land in Hempstead, Essex witnessed by Sir Nicholas Peche, Sir Andrew de Helyun, Sir Simon Peche, Philip de Codree, John de Bosco, Richard de Kanne, Richard le Utlawe, Hugh de Sanford, Roger de Reymes, Geoffrey de Bello, Simon Clericus - 44 Henry III

Some questions might be : Why are all these (important) people gathered together for this occasion of a rental agreement?

How does Richard Utlawe fit into this? Whose man was he with? John Vaux? The Pecche's? or Waterville?
I'm thinking with the Julian Glanville connection and a Cambridge Baron of Bourn, it would be the Peche's. But it could easily be John Vaux with the Essex/Norfolk connection . It is also likely that Richard Utlawe was together with Roger de Reymes if he was related to the Hinderingham Robert de Utlagh connection. Also there is the Crusading connections. So many possibilities.

Generally the witnesses to the agreement would be people who worked for or were friends involved with the principals, and acted as Notaries of the agreement, they maybe neighbors of in this case William de Waterville.

Facts we know for sure are:

Julian de Glanville, marries Sir Simon Pecche.
Sir Simon Pecche.goes on crusade with Prince Edward in 1270 and returns in 1274 for Edward coronation.
The Peche's were Barons "Lords of Bourn" Cambridge ( Gilbert Pecche ~ 1200)
John de Vallibus (Vaux) is the High Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk in 1283 and he dies in 1288
Hempstead is close to Saffron Waldon which just 15 miles south of Cambridge
Roger de Reymes - the "family" had land in Overstrand Norfolk and "Barony of Raines" land in Essex which they may have lost. No specific information on Roger
William de Watevile (Watervile) - His posterity was seated at Hempstead, one of the two Essex manors that he held of the Honour of Tunbridge, in which Henry III. granted Sir William de Wateville a charter of free warren in 1253 - also there seems to be a branch of the family near Peterborough which is north of Cambridge
Sir Andrew de Helyun is Sir Andrew de Helion - Book of Fees - 1236. - Essex, the chief place of the Honour of Helion was situate
"de Bosco" are the "de Bois" or "de Boys" family , possibly of "Boy's of Kent" - Sir John de Bosco seems to be a distant cousin to the Waterville's - Sir John Robert De Bosco was born 1245 in Thorpe, Arnold Leicestershire, England, and died 1298 in Fersfield, Norfolk, England.
Hugh de Sanford possibly related to Sir Robert de Sandford, Master of the Knights of the Temple in England, or Sir Thomas de Sandford - Oxford

Found these supporting records that seem to be the same reference:

Essex, Hempstead.- Grant of a rent

Essex, Hempstead.- Grant of a rent and quitclaim for the release of annual payment, William de Watevile to John de Vallibus, his wife Alice and his heirs by her: grant of four shillings rent in Hempstead to be taken from a half-virgate of land in Hempstead which William de Estone held of Watevile, and quitclaim of two shillings rent from the tenement in Hempstead of Alan Lovesone, to hold of Watevile for a pound of pepper on 25 December for all services, in return for a release by John and Alice of an annual payment of a buck and a doe and ten cartloads of wood which he is bound to make to them and their heirs from his park of Hempstead, witnesses: Sir Nicholas Peche, Sir Andrew de Helyun, Hugh de Sanford and others, manuscript in Latin, on vellum, 16 lines, green wax seal appended showing a mounted knight with raised sword leaping a star with the legend "Sigill' Willelmi de [Watevi]le", some wear, chipped, docket on verso: "this is a dede of honnor to rattewell", folds, a little creased and planet, 102 x 178mm., [c. 1260].

Found:

Lot 275 Essex. A fine and very early medieval charter - Dominic Winter Book Auctions Artfact

Description: *Essex. A fine and very early medieval charter made during the reign of Henry III, (c. 1260), being a grant of a rent and quitclaim for the release of an annual payment, William de Watevile to John de Vallibus, his wife Alice and his heirs by her, 1/ Four shillings rent in Hempstead (Hamstede) to be taken from a half-virgate of land in Hempstead which William de Estone held of William de Watevile, saving the customs which are owed to him, 2/ Two shillings rent from the tenement in Hempstead of Alan Lovesone to hold of William de Watavile gor a pound of pepper on 25th December for all services, William de Watevile grants 1 above and quitclaims 2 above in return for a release by John and Alice of an annual payment of a buck and a doe and ten cartloads of wood which he is bound to make to them and their heirs from his park in Hempstead, witnessed by Sir Nicholas Peche, Sir Andrew de Helyun, Sir Simon Peche, Philip de Codree, John de Bosco, Richard de Kanne, Richard le Utlawe, Hugh de Sanford, Roger de Reymes, Geoffrey de Bello, Simon Clericus, [this document without a trace of a seal, so would appear to be a contemporary copy issued with the original at that time] (1)

Found: Bloomsbury_725 Auction_July_2010

45. Essex, Hempstead.- Grant of a rent and quitclaim for the release of annual payment, William de Watevile to John
de Vallibus, his wife Alice and his heirs by her: grant of four shillings rent in Hempstead to be taken from a half-virgate of land
in Hempstead which William de Estone held of Watevile, and quitclaim of two shillings rent from the tenement in Hempstead of
Alan Lovesone, to hold of Watevile for a pound of pepper on 25 December for all services, in return for a release by John and Alice
of an annual payment of a buck and a doe and ten cartloads of wood which he is bound to make to them and their heirs from his park of
Hempstead, witnesses: Sir Nicholas Peche, Sir Andrew de Helyun, Hugh de Sanford and others, manuscript in Latin, on vellum, 16
lines, green wax seal appended showing a mounted knight with raised sword leaping a star with the legend “Sigill’ Willelmi de
[Watevi]le”, some wear, chipped, docket on verso: “this is a dede of honnor to rattewell”, folds, a little creased and planet, 102 x
178mm., [c. 1260].

1169 - Bromholm Priory - House of Glanville - Charter of Bartholomew de Glanville To Bromholme Priory - Walter Utlage " And two thirds of the tithes of my men: that is, of my uncle by the mother, Roger de Bertuna: And of Geoffrey, priest of Honinges: and Turstan despensatoris: Warini de Torp, Ricardi Hurel, Walteri Utlage: et Roberti de Buskevill: And the tenth of the whole Ricardi filii Ketel. " - An Essay Towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk: Tunstede ... By Francis Blomefield, Charles Parkin (All the people highlighted in this Charter were involved with the Crusades or their relatives were - except for Walter Utlage , for which there is no information available to document )

1207 - Hubert de Burgh purchased of Roger de Burnham and Julian, his wife, William de Noiers, Robert Fitz Ralph, and Alice his wife, and Robert de Utlagh, their several nine parts of two knights fees in Runton and Beeston and Hinderingham, for which they paid castle guard to Dover. 9th of King John purchased of Roger de Burnham and Julian, his wife, William de Noiers, Robert Fitz Ralph, and Alice his wife, and Robert de Utlagh, their several nine parts of two knights fees in Runton and Beeston and Hinderingham, for which they paid castle guard to Dover. 9th of King John * The Norfolk antiquarian miscellany - West Runton - Beeston Regis - Hindringham - "Hindringham Outlagh Manor"

1240 - Adam fil' Symon v. Warin le Utlag, in Qeywode. (Bishop of Norwich app. clam.). Diss Hundred 24th Henry III -
Possible Peche connection: Pecche's Manor, now called Heywood Hall - Sir Gilbert Pecche, Knt. lord of Brunne, in Cambridgeshire, upon whose death it descended to Sir Hammond Pecche, Knt. his son, who died in 1240, leaving, by Eva his wife, several children; Gilbert was his eldest son and heir, but this was given to Robert Pecche, his fourth son, who held it in 1286, in which year he claimed view of frankpledge, and assize of bread and ale of all his tenants.

1260 - Witness Richard le Utlawe - Essex - Grant of Rent William de Wateville to John de Vallibus and his heirs of land in Hempstead, Essex witnessed by Sir Nicholas Peche, Sir Andrew de Helyun, Sir Simon Peche, Philip de Codree, John de Bosco, Richard de Kanne, Richard le Utlawe, Hugh de Sanford, Roger de Reymes, Geoffrey de Bello, Simon Clericus

1260 - Little Wenham Castle - Suffolk - circa 1260-1290 for Sir John de Vallibus - Fortified House, now used as a private museum.... The house is of great importance as it represents one of the earliest uses of home made brick in England and it was built as a house, not a keep. The hall came to the Holbrooks & Debenhams

1270 - Eighth Crusade - 20 August Edward sailed from Dover for France, brought with him around 225 knights and all together 1000 men

1273 - Richard Utlawe, County Bedford, (taken from the Hundred Rolls).

8/1274, King Edward and the English [likely including Simon] returned from the crusade.

1283 - Sir John de Vallibus (Vaux) was Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk and Steward of the Duchy of Aquitaine in 1283, He died in 1288

Over a Hundred years later:

1399 - Richard Outlawe, 58, on that day went with master Ivo la Zouch, chancellor of Cambridge University, to the church

So where is Hempstead Essex?

Hempstead, Essex - is a village near Saffron Walden, in Essex. It is situated on a relatively quiet road, from Saffron Walden to Steeple Bumpstead. The village is the birthplace of Dick Turpin, and is also the final resting place of Doctor William Harvey, who discovered the circulation of blood.

Saffron Walden - It is located 12 miles (19 km) north of Bishop's Stortford, 15 miles (24 km) south of Cambridge and approx 35 miles (56 km) north of London...The town retains a rural appearance and many very old buildings dating from the medieval period onwards...
With the Norman invasion of 1066, a stone church was built. The castle was constructed c.1116^{[citation
needed]} A Priory, later to become Walden Abbey, was also founded under the patronage of Geoffrey de Mandeville, first Earl of Essex around 1136

In the medieval period the primary trade in Saffron Walden was in wool. However, in the 16th century and 17th century the saffron crocus (crocus sativus) became widely grown in the area. The flower was precious, as extract from the stigmas, the saffron, was used in medicines, as a condiment, as a perfume, as an aphrodisiac, and as an expensive yellow dye. This industry gave its name to the town and Chipping Walden became Saffron Walden.

Pedigree John de VAUX - High Sheriff of Norfolk & Suffolk Born: ? Died: 1288

Baron John de Vaux - Vallibus - Mini Biographies

~1230, John born in Dalston, England, s/o 9994996. Sir Oliver de Vaux & 9994997. Petronill de Croun.

Joan 1st married Roger de Geyney.

1252, John heir to William de Vaux, his brother, paying 80 marks for livery of lands at 26 marks per year.

5/1253, The king, concerning 80 m. by which William de Vallibus made fine with the king because he took to wife Eleanor daughter of William de Ferrers earl of Derby without the king’s licence, has granted to John de Vallibus, brother and heir of the same William, that he is to pay 26 m. 8s. 10½d. to the king per annum. (S) Fine Rolls of Henry III.

4/4/1254, Protection with clause, for John de Vallibus as long as he be on the king’s service in Gascony. (S) CPRs. [King Henry in Gascony to deal with a rebellion.]

8/27/1254, at Bordeaux, John de Vallibus witnessed a grant by King Henry to Robert de Morley, which had been made at the instance of John. (S) CPRs.

1256, John’s debt remainder of 40 marks reduced to payments of £10 per year. (S) Fine Rolls of Henry III.

1257, John paid a scutage tax of £10 for 5 knight’s fees to avoid service in Wales.

10/1/1257, Protection of those who stay in Wales in the service of Edward the king’s son … John de Vallibus … (S) CPRs.

1258-9, “Grantor: John de Vaux; Grantee: Catesby Nunnery; Place or Subject: Grant of a messuage and land in Duddington; County: [Northamptonshire].” (S) UKNA.

1259, Marcher lords Roger Clifford, Hamo Lestrange and John de Vaux were members of Lord Edward’s entourage [the “bachelors of England”], and distrusted and disliked by the Queen, when Edward made an agreement with Simon de Montfort pledging to the furtherance of reform. (S) Eleanor of Provence, Howell, 2001, P163.

John “de Vallibus” of Frieston, Lincolnshire and Walton, Norfolk married Joan.

1263, John de Vallibus and John de Mucengros joined others in a letter agreeing to submit questions arising from the provisions of Oxford to the King of France.

8/18/1263, Roger de Leyburn, John de Vaux, Ralph Basset, Hamo Lestrange and John Giffard issued letters patent giving their full support to Lord Edward. (S) Edward I, Prestwich, 1988, P41.

9/18/1263, Pardon to Roger de Clifford, Roger de Leyburn, John de Vallibus, Hamo Lestrange, John Giffard and Ralph Basset of Dreyton of all trespasses … reason of non-observance of the Provisions of Oxford … (S) CPRs.

12/18/1263, The king has committed his counties of Norfolk and Suffolk, together with his castle of Norwich and appurtenances, to John de Vaux. (S) Fine Rolls of Henry III.

4/1264, John de Vallibus, knight of Roger le Bygod, earl of Norfolk and marshall of England, fought at the battle of Northampton. (S) CPRs, 1/24/1266.

6/4/1264, John de Vallibus, constable of the castle of Norwich, to bring his prisoners from the battle of Northampton ot the king. (S) CPRs.

6/27/1264, Mandate to John de Vallibus to deliver the counties of Norfolk and Suffolk to Hervey de Stanhou. (S) CPRs.

8/4/1265, John a royalist at the battle of Evesham; the defeat of Simon de Montfort.

1265, John granted land by King Henry III. Sir John already owned land around Boston in Lincolnshire. The sea provided comparatively easy access to his estates in both Boston and Cley. Boston was a very important port and paid more tax than any other English port other than London. Cley was also a prosperous port and its tax assessment was three times that of Holt. Norwich was the second city in England, and Norfolk the wealthiest county.

11/24/1265, Grant to John de Vallibus son of Oliver de Vallibus, for his service to the king and Edward his son, of the houses near Garthere within the city of London, late of John Lorene, the king’s enemy. (S) CPRs.

5/8/1266, John de Vallibus, appointed to the keeping and defence of the parts of Norfolk and Suffolk. (S) CPRs.

3/4/1267, John de Vallibus, keeper of the king’s fleets in the counties of Norfolk and Suffolk. (S) CPRs.

3/5/1267, Protection to all those whom John de Vallibus shall cause to come to the parts of Len to fight the king’s enemies in the Isle of Ely. (S) CPRs.

4/6/1267, Pardon, at the instance of John de Vallibus, to Roger de Huntingfield for the death of Maurice de Eggefeld. (S) Calendar of Patent Rolls.

7/30/1268, Remission … to Humphrey de Bassingvurn of the king’s indignation … restitution to him of his lands by John de Vallibus and Robert de Turbervill, to whom the king had given them. (S) Calendar of Patent Rolls.

1271, Roger Bygod was paying John de Vallibus, the itinerant justice, an annual fee.

8/19/1274 at Westminster abbey, Edward I crowned king of England.

10/9/1277, “John de Vallibus” granted a market and fair at Reepham manor, Norfolk. (S) Gazetteer of Markets and Fairs in England and Wales to 1516. [2/3/1288, the market passed to William de Ros and Matilda his wife, youngest daughter and coheiress of John de Vallibus.]

1278, John granted a market and fair at Resham manor, Norfolk.

1280-1, “Accord of suit moved before dominus John de Vallibus and his fellow itinerant justices at Derby …” (S) UKNA.

1281, “John de Vaux, justice in eyre at York.” (S) UKNA.

1283, John served in Wales.

1284, John, Steward of Aquitaine. (S) A Synopsis of the Peerage of England, Nicolas, 1825, P659.

1284-5, “Lincolnshire: Particulars of partial payments for amercements of the eyrs of John de Vallibus, with which the Sheriff charged himself (onerat se) on his profer.” (S) UKNA.

5/25/1285, John de Vallibus going beyond the seas on the king’s service. (S) CPRs.

3/15/1287, protection, with clause volumes, for John de Vallibus, going to Gascony to the King, until Midsummer. (S) CPRs. [Robert Houel and Robert de Sandcroft traveling with John.]

By 2/3/1288, John, great-grandson of Robert, died, leaving two daughters, his co-heirs. (S) Houses of Austin canons: The priory of Pentney, A History of the County of Norfolk, V2, 1906. John de Vaux died seized of the lordship of Wisset. Upon the partition of his large possessions [totaling 44 knight’s fees], the following year, between his daughters, Petronel, who married to Sir William de Nerford, had this manor assigned her, charged with £14 rent, per annum; to be paid to Sir William de Roos, who married Maud, her sister. Sir William held the same of the King, in capite, as of the honor of Richmond, by the service of one Knight’s fee. (S) Topographical and Genealogical, The County of Suffolk, Page, 1844.

(S) Magna Carta Ancestry, P701. (S) History of the Welles Family in England and Normandy, Welles, 1876, P23.

Family notes:
• “The various Deeds of different reigus from that of Henry III inclusive, amount to 206. The greatest part of them were transcribed, under the direction of the Lord John de Vallibus, before the year 1288.” (S) Bibliotheca ms. Stowensis, 1819, P160.

Children of John and Joan:

i. Petronil de Vaux, born ~1255 in England.
Petronil married Sir William Nerford.

ii. Maud de Vaux (2498749), born 1261 in England. Posted by Bond0007

Amazing a Glanville connection Julian Glanville is Symon Peche's wife:

Sir Simon de Pecche &. Julian de Glanville Mini Biographies

~1225, Simon born in England, s/o §Sir Gilbert Peche & Maud Leach.

~1225, Julian born in England, d/o 11817222. Sir Geoffrey de Glanville & 11817223. Margaret de la Haye.

Julian coheir [with her sister Alianore married to Lord Almuric Peche] of her brother Sir Geoffrey de Glanville.

1246, Royal grant to Simon Pecche. (S) Magna Britannia, V5, Derbyshire, 1817.

1255, Simon Pecche of Brandeston had free warren in his manor, William Pecche his son. (S) History and Antiquities of the County of Norfolk, Armstrong, 1781, P96.

3/1256, Simon Peche has paid in the king’s Wardrobe to Arcald de St. Romano etc. at Norwich five marks of gold to be bought there from for having a charter of warren and acquitting it. (S) Fine Rolls of Henry III.

7/10/1270, … Protection with clause volumus, for four years from Easter, for Robert de Ufford, crusader, who is going with the King and with Edward the king’s son to the Holy land. The like for the following crusaders … Simon Peche … (S) Fine Rolls of Henry III. [Simon’s son William also went on crusade.]

8/1270, Simon left on the 8th crusade with Lord Edward.

11/10/1270, Simon, with Edward, arrived in Tunis.

8/1274, King Edward and the English [likely including Simon] returned from the crusade.

8/3/1279, Commission … where by danger might arise by lapse of time to Simon Pecche and Julianan his wife, touching the advowson of the church of Rollesby, co. Norfolk, now long void. (S) Calendar of Patent Rolls.

1281, Simon de Peche and Julian his wife granted lands here to Clement, son of Edmund de Paston, by fine, and also to Laurence de Repp.

1281, Nicholas de Castello v. Symon Peche and Juliana his wife in Cringelford. (S) Feet of Fines for Norfolk, V1.

1286, William de Rollesby v. Juliana the wife of Symon Pecche, of the advowson of Rollesby. (S) Feet of Fines for Norfolk, V1.

6/18/1289, To Roger Lestrange (Extraneo), justice of the Forest this side Trent. Order to deliver on bail Simon Pecche of Mundene, imprisoned at Colchester for trespass of venison in the forest of Essex. (S) Calendar of the Close Rolls.

2/5/1290, Licence for the alienation in mortmain to the prior and convent of Norwich of … 7.5 acres of land in Marcham by Juliana Pecche, … (S) CPRs.

(S) Norfolk Archaeology, V4, 1855, PP11.

Family notes:
• 1222-3, The grant of a Wednesday market to Simon Peche at Castleton.
• 1234, Symon Peche held 3 parts of a fee of the king in Gukenton, Norfolk.
• 1242-3, Gilbert Pecche held three knight’s fees in Kingston, Wimpole, and Eversden; held by Hamon Pecche in 1166. (S) County of Cambridge and the Isle of Ely, V5, 1973.

Child of Simon and Julian:

i. Cecily de Peche (2954305), born ~1245 in England. [Heir]
Posted by Bond0007 at 10:38 PM

House of Glanville from A.D. 1050 to 1880 - Pages 1 to 20

In the year 1240 Sir Geoffrey held one Knight's fee of the Lordship of Castle Acre, which, with his other extensive possessions, on his death went to his daughters and coheirs on the decease of his son Geoffrey. In the same year he conveys by fine to Thomas the son of Richard de Backeton free lands in his Lordship of Bacton.

Sir Geoffrey de Glanville married Margaret daughter of Sir Geoffrey de-la-Haye, and by her had issue:-

(1.) Geofrey de Glanville, who dying without issue, his property descended to his five sisters and coheirs. [fn 19]

Margaret de Glanville, married Edmund, Earl of Cornwall.
Alianore de Glanville, married Lord Almuric Pecche.
Agnes de Glanville, married Baldwin, a Norman.
Emma de Glanville, married Sir John de Grey.
Basilia de Glanville, married Sir William Boville.
Julian de Glanville, married Sir Simon Pecche.

By the death, of Geoffrey de Glanville, the elder line of the Glanvilles failed, and a part of the lands of that branch went into the families of his sisters, which will be seen under the account of the following manors. [fn 20]
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PECHE HALL MANOR.

Alianore de Glanville, first daughter and coheiress, brought her portion of Lordship of Bacton to her husband Lord Almuric Peche.

Edmund Earl of Cornwall granted, in 24 Edw. I., the wardship of William de Leach to John de Walcot, which belonged to him on account of the custody of Thomas son and heir of Sir Edmund Peche Kt., and of Richard Leche his brother, if William died under age. Julian fifth daughter and coheiress, married Symon Peche, brother to Almuric.

In 9 Edward I. Simon de Peche and Julian his wife granted lands here to Clement, son of Edmund de Paston, by fine, and also to Laurence de Repp.

In 30 Edward I William Peche and Rose his wife and John their son were seised of a manor in Bacton, which had been afore granted by Julian Peche and held of the honour of Eye by the service of 6d. every 32 weeks; it was valued at £7 12s. 8d. This manor then came to the Pastons by the marriage of Cecily, daughter and heiress of Sir Simon Peche, with Walter de Paston. A park is mentioned at Bacton in ancient times, and there is a place called to this day Bacton Wood.

Also the Peche's were "Lord's of Bourn" Cambridge:

The early history of Caldecote church - CHAPTER ONE

When Pain Peverel died in 1121 he was buried at Barnwell Priory. William Peverel of Shropshire succeeded to the barony of Bourn and to the patronage of the Priory. When he in turn died on the Second Crusade (in 1148) the Peverel fief was partitioned among his sisters, with Bourn and the patronage of Barnwell Priory falling to Matilda Peverel, wife of Hugh of Dover. Matilda, however, died without issue in 1185 and the honour of Bourn and the patronage passed to her nephew Geoffrey Pecche, lord of Great Thurlow, Sugolk and Kingston, Cambs. In 1190 Geoffrey Pecche was succeeded by his brother Gilbert Pecche.

Cambridge Journals Online - Abstract - Frilsham

Berkshire Documents - Frilsham

803 Gift in free alms by Matilda Peche (Peche), lady of Frilsham (Fridlesham), widow, for the health of her soul and for the souls of Sir Nicholas Peche her father, Alice Peche her mother, Sir Oliver Deyncort and Sir Walter de Rideware her husbands deceased, Sir Ralph Peche, Hawise his wife, Nicholas and John the donor's sons, Alice her daughter, Roger de Rideware and Alice his wife, Richard le Wales, and all her ancestors [etc.], to Reading Abbey of all the land which she had in the vill of Frilsham called La Hide, which she bought from Nicholas Butler (le Boteler) of Reading and Juliana his wife and John Flawel of Chichester (Cicestr'), which they had bought from Roger Willard; saving to herself a parcel [of land] which she bought from Margery, widow of Walter Wilard, for the term of Margery's life. To be held with all appurtenances and the homage and service of Robert Black (Niger) and whatever belonged to her from the said Robert or his heirs, by rendering annually to her and her heirs a root of ginger and a rose at the nativity of St John Baptist for all service, suits of court, secular exaction and demand, saving hidage, scutage and all other foreign service which is due from the said land. Warranty. For this the monks have received Matilda, her ancestors, successors and children in all benefits of the conventual church of Reading in perpetuity. Sealing
[1270]

So who was: William de Wateville ?

Well they seem to related to the Lords of Bourn/Cambridge again and related to the Pverel's:

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Name: Asceline de WATERVILLE , Heiress of Bourn
Sex: F
Birth: ABT 1158 in Bourn, Caxton, Cambridgeshire, England
Death: ABT 1220

Father: Geoffrey de WATERVILLE , of Marholm & Bourn b: ABT 1124 in Marholm, Peterborough, Northamptonshire, England
Mother: Ascelina PEVEREL , Heiress of Bourn b: ABT 1134 in Bourn, Caxton, Cambridgeshire, England

Marriage 1 Roger II de TORPEL , & Bourn b: ABT 1155 in Torpel Manor, Thorney, Peterborough, Cambridgeshire, England
Children
1. Roger III de TORPEL , & Bourn b: ABT 1175 in Bourn, Caxton, Cambridgeshire, England

Maybe this is Roger de Torp I've seen records of?

TORPEL FAMILY OF NORTHAMPTONSHIRE

But this does not show any male William de Waterville descendants.. hmmmm

Waterville - [WATE301] William I de Waterville (born c.1025). He possibly fought with William at the Battle of Hastings (1066), for which service he would be rewarded with lands in England. At the Domesday Survey (1086), William held land as sub-tenant to the Chertsey Abbey (Surrey), for example in Cobham, Esher and Old Malden. In addition "William de Vatteville" held land in Suffolk, including Hargrave Manor and Lidgate Manor, as tenant-in-chief to the King, and had one house at Colchester, held of Swein, which [ESSE341] Robert FitzWymarc (Swein's father) held prior to the Conquest.
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Roger I had a son Roger II who m. by c1160 to Ascelina, dau. of Geoffrey de Waterville and his wife Ascelina (dau. or sister of Payn) Peverel. (Geoffrey was son of Ascelin de Waterville).

They had a son Roger III who succ. his mother in 1220. This last Roger was said to have been of Girton, Cambridgeshire.

That Roger (III) m. Mabel ___ and had a son William and a dau. Asceline who m. Ralph Camoys.

So this would be "the" William de Wateville , but no dates and may have also been known as William de Torpel but he seems to have died in 1242 - so that's a dead end....

Maybe this William was unknown because it all points to Bourn and Cambridge area , when the people involved are the Pecche's and Vallibus - Vaux....

1066 A Medieval Mosaic (Medieval Mosaic)

Wateuil :

"from the village of Vatteville-sur-Seine, of which the Earl of Mellent was chief lord, and where he had a castle. Willielmus de Watevilla is a witness to a charter of Robert de Mellent to the Abbey of Jumieges, about the time of the Norman survey; and he himself gave to that monastery, with the consent of his wife, the church, fair, and tithes of Croixman, in the Pays de Caux."—Gage's Suffolk. It is apparent, from the accompts of the Norman Exchequer Rolls, that in 1195, Vatteville was a Royal residence, when the King hunted in the forest of Vatteville. Among the items furnished by its custodian, Robert d'Appeville, are "four nets to catch wild boars, two tunics for the use of two dog-keepers," &c, &c.

Three De Watevilles are entered in Domesday: William, who held of the King in Essex and Suffolk, and Percinges (Perching) of William de Warrenne, with two other manors—one of which was Brighton—in Sussex; Robert, who held de capite in Surrey, with five manors in other counties, under Richard de Tonbridge; and Richard, an under-tenant in Surrey.

William de Wateville—in all probability the same William who was a benefactor of Jumieges, and the head of the family, held High Rodinges and Hanningfield in Essex; and some of his descendants, "from their abode at Hanningfield, took their denomination from thence, being in old evidences written promiscuously De Hanningfield and De Wateville. Robert was probably either brother or son of that William."—Morant's Essex. According to the same authority, he was the progenitor of the Essex family. He appears as a witness to two deeds in the Bishopric of Durham in the time of Ralph Flambard (1099-1133): and has left his name to the manor of Biddic-Watervile, or South Biddic, in the parish of Houghton-le-Spring; but this would appear to have been his only connection with the North of England. His posterity was seated at Hempstead, one of the two Essex manors that he held of the Honour of Tunbridge, in which Henry III. granted Sir William de Wateville a charter of free warren in 1253.

This can scarcely have been the Sir William de Waterville mentioned by Thomas of Gloucester, who, sixty-two years before, went with Coeur de Lion to the Holy Land, and was one of the six knights through whom he sent his challenge to the Soudan. (See Brande.) Both he and his son married heiresses; the latter a daughter of Sir Robert Roos of Radwinter, who bore the uncommon name of Thorema, and was the grandmother of the last of the line, Sir John, and his sister Joan. "Upon his dying without issue, she became the sole heir, and brought with her a considerable estate in marriage to Richard de Mutford, her first husband, about the year 1330. Having no issue by him, she was again married to Sir William Langham, about 1341.

"Of the same family were no less than three Knights Bannerets, all living at the same time in this county in the reign of Edward I., bearing these arms: Sir John de Wateville, Argent three chevrons Gules; Sir Robert de Wateville, the same, within a bordure indented Sable; Sir Roger de Wateville, the same, with a martlet Sable."—Morant's Essex. Sir Roger and Sir Robert were among the famous tilters at the great tournament at Stebenhithe (Stepney) in 1308, with another of the name, Sir Geoffrey Wauteville, who bore for arms: Sable semee of cross crosslets a lion rampant Argent langued Gules.

In Surrey, we find William de Waterville, in 1144, gave the manor of Warlingham, with the consent of Robert, William, and Otwell, his sons, to the convent of Bermondsey; on which either he or his son of the same name bestowed further benefactions in 1158. Hugh de Wateville was Sheriff of Surrey and Sussex in 1155; and in the same year William de Wateville, one of the King's chaplains, was elected Abbot of Peterborough. It is recorded of him that he added three stories to the central tower of his church, furnished the choir, and founded a chapel to St. Thomas of Canterbury—"a bold thing for a chaplain of Henry II. to do." Another William was among the "forty knights and good men" summoned in 1292 by the Sheriff of Surrey "to be at Lambeth to enquire after the malefactors who lately broke into the King's Treasury, and carried away the King's Treasure to the value of,10,000." Two of their manors, Chelsham-Watvyle and Esher-Waterville, are still called by their name in Surrey: and Manning and Bray, in their county history, suggest that it is highly probable the Robert de Merton who founded Merton College in 1264 was of this family. "The Watteviles had large possessions in Northamptonshire and Surrey. The surname of De Merton was an assumed one, probably from his having been educated at that place, which seems to have been the case with his father also. How the Watteviles of Surrey and those of Northampton were connected does not appear." The three chevrons of Merton College were certainly borne on the coat of the Watevilles, but differenced in tincture.

"Thorp Watervile Castelle upon Avon, sumwhat lower than Wndale," as Leland describes it, in Northamptonshire, was most probably built by Azelin de Wateville, "who," says Bridges, "first possessed the lordship." No traces of it are now remaining. It passed in the time of Henry III. to the sisters of Richard de Wateville, who, in 1234, had obtained a grant of free warren in Thorp and Marham. Richard's widow held Marham in dower, and it was transferred by purchase to Reginald de Wateville in 1240. Reginald, again, had no son, and left three co-heiresses, Joan, married to Robert de Vere; Elizabeth, or Petronella, married to John Wykham; and Margaret, married to Henry de Tichmarsh. In 17 Ed. II. Marham belonged to Robert de Wateville."—Bridge's Northamptonshire. Was this—as seems likely—the same Robert who received license of pardon for having been concerned in the death of Piers Gaveston, "the Ganymede of Edward II.," and was a commissioner of array in Hampshire in 1324? Two years afterwards, he "had summons to attend a parliament at Westminster, inter caeteros proceres et magnates regni; and in the 1st, 2nd, and 4th Ed. III., had the like summons with the nobility of the realm. In the 32 Ed. I. (if he be the same person) he had a charter for free-warren at Overton-Waterville, in the co. of Huntingdon: and in the 9th Ed. II. fined forty shillings for license, to give certain lands at Overton-Waterville, and Ashele, in Huntingdonshire, to found a chantry at St. Mary's, at Ashele."—Banks. Nothing is said of his posterity: and no other summons to parliament was ever issued to the family. Several other members of it are incidentally mentioned:—such as Berenger, "one of those great men on the part of the rebel barons, who were taken prisoners by the Royal army at Northampton" and Geoffrey, who in the previous century married Ascelina, the youngest co-heiress of William Peverell of Brune and Dover. He died in 1162, and was, according to Banks, the father of Roger, of Thorp, who had issue. Bridges, on the other hand, declares that his son was Ralph de Wateville, who died s. p. in 1185, leaving as his heirs two sisters, Ascelina, married to—Torpel, and Maud, the wife of William de Diva. In Warwickshire Dugdale speaks of a Roger de Wateville, who held Bramcote under the Earl of Leicester that founded a monastery at Leicester, and bestowed some lands there on the new Abbey. His grant was confirmed by Henry II.

Who was - Sir Andrew de Helyun ? - Helion -

Liber Feodorum Part I 1235 :

LIBER FEODORUM A.D. 1235-1236.

Sir Andrew de Helion is similar in character to the others, and the copy of it in the Book of Fees comes between copies of documents which clearly belong to the year 1236. The reply of Robert de Beauchamp of Somerset, which is not entered in the Book of Fees, will be found in the Appendix.
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SUFFOLK. A list of tenants in chief of the king within the Liberty of St. Edmund's enumerates not only those who held single fees and fractions of fees and one man holding by serjeanty, but also some who held several fees, to whom, however, the king had not written separately for information. Although the name of Andrew de Helion figures in it, his own reply shows that he had actually received one of the king's letters, presumably through the sheriff of Essex, where the chief place of the Honour of Helion was situate. His reply that all his military tenants had answered to the king direct accords with the statement that the Honour of Helion was in the king's hand. [1]

It has been seen above that, in 1218, William de Helion had little or no authority over his tenants. [2] The Honour of Helion had apparently ceased to exist except in name. Some of the entries in this list may be compared with those dealing with the same places in the list of tenants of the Honour of Lancaster immediately preceding it.

Who was Roger de Reymes ? Well he seems to be from Norfolk - Overstrand or Oxstrand: - 44 HENRY III - 1260

But like a lot of the Norman conquerors, they also had other lands, in this case in Essex:

"had the honour and barony of Raines, Reynes, consisting of 10 knight's fees in Essex"

Again this is where the Utlagh's come from the area of Holt: Overstrand - is a village (population 1,101^[1]) on the north coast of Norfolk in England, two miles east of Cromer.

1207 - Hubert de Burgh purchased of Roger de Burnham and Julian, his wife, William de Noiers, Robert Fitz Ralph, and Alice his wife, and Robert de Utlagh, their several nine parts of two knights fees in Runton and Beeston and Hinderingham, for which they paid castle guard to Dover. 9th of King John * The Norfolk antiquarian miscellany - West Runton - Beeston Regis - Hindringham - "Hindringham Outlagh Manor"

An Essay Towards a Topographical History of the County of Norfolk: Clavering Vol 8 - Google Books

North Erpingham Hundred - Oxstrand British History Online

The town takes its name from its site, on the strand by the water; that is by the sea shore, being contiguous to it. Soon after the survey, probably on the decease of Berner, it came to the Earl Warren, and was held of him by the family of de Reymes. Geffrey, son of Herlewin, owed 20 marks of silver, in the 5th of King Stephen, to have his land of Robert de Reymes
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This family seems to be descended from Roger de Reymes, or Reynes, who came into England with the Conqueror, and had the honour and barony of Raines, Reynes, consisting of 10 knight's fees in Essex, given to him.
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Agnes de Ratlesden, wife of Adam de Ratlesden, in the 34th of Henry III. impleaded Richer de Reymes, for a fourth part of a fee in this town, (then wrote Overstrand,) and in North Repps: Richer had released it to Roger de Herleberge for 80 marks of silver; Roger was called to warrant it, and a duel, or combat of trial, was fought on this account between the said Roger, and a freeman of Simon, son of Hugh, in the behalf and right of Agnes, and after that they came to an agreement.
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In the 3d of Edward I. [ 1275 ] Hugh de Reymes, as lord, claimed wreck at sea, and in the 19th of that King, sold lands here; about the same time, John de Reymes, and Agnes his wife, were living, and John his son; in the 33d of that King [1305], Roger de Reymes, and Alice, his wife, settled in trust a moiety of this manor.

Overstrand Village and Parish Council - Lords of the Manor of Overstrand

Othestranda was held for de Warenne by Roger de Reymes a norman knight who fought in the Conquest and who was later honoured with a barony in Essex.

The de Reymes (also recorded as Raimes, Reynes, Raines, Rames) held the 'lordship' until the late 1600's, but not without incident it seems.

By 1268 it seems the lordship had become known as Overstrand. In this year a Richer de Reymes sold the lordship to Roger de Herleberge for 80 marks of silver. His (probably) cousin Agnes pleaded for a fourth part of the lordship as one of the co-heirs. It seems that a duel or combat of trial was fought between Roger de Herleberge and, acting for Agnes, a freeman called Simon son of Hugh. The result of which ended in agreement being reached by both parties.

Peterborough -

orton waterville peterborough - Map

Thorpe Waterville Castle (south west of Peterborough and near Barnwell Castle)

Castle crenellated in 1301 by Walter de Langton, Bishop of Lichfield. The existing building, early 14th century and now used as a barn, was the great hall of the castle and originally two storys. The upper room floor has gone but the open roof displays magnificent timber work of tie-bean construction. The building has a stone exterior. (Pastscape)

A hamlet in the parish of Abchurch, on the W. of the county, and close to the river Nene. In several records mention is made of a castle, which perhaps was originally founded by Argeline de Waterville, a Norman knight, who at Domesday owned lands here, and who also obtained church fees from the abbot of Burgh, to defend him against Hereward the Wake. The place continued in his family till the reign of Edward I., when we find, in 1299, a Sir William de Tochet possessed of Thorpe; but three years after the castle and manor had passed into the hands of Walter Langton, Bishop of Lichfield and Coventry, at a time when probably the old fortress had become somewhat obsolete, according to the requirements of the day, and the bishop erected a large mansion upon ground now part of the Exeter property, .where a site called Castle Hill may be found, with traces of foundations.

Thorpe Waterville Castle Castle Barn Thorpe Achurch Thrapston Northamptonshire England English - Thorpe Waterville Castle was originally a 12th century fortified manor house, founded by the de Waterville familyThe castles of England their story - Thorpe Waterville

So who was "Philip de Codree" - "Coudree" Maybe a Norman from Sciez, France ?

There is a Chateau de Coudree (Sciez, France) - Castle Reviews

Chateau de Coudree - Sciez-Bonnatrait - France

Château de Coudree, enchanting 12th Century Chateau, with its fairy tale turrets and pinnacles, surrounded by a vast private estate.

Sciez France - is a commune in the Haute-Savoie department in the Rhône-Alpes region in south-eastern France.

Rôno-Arpes; Occitan: Ròse-Aups) is one of the 27 regions of France, located on the eastern border of the country, towards the south. The region was named after the Rhône River and the Alps mountain range. Its capital, Lyon, is the second-largest metropolitan area in France after Paris. Rhône-Alpes has the sixth-largest economy of any European region.

Patent Rolls of the Reign of Henry III - 4 Henry III - Philip de Codree - 1220 - Latin and I don't recognize any other names

Who was Richard de Kanne ?

Looking for a place doesn't help much unless Richard de Kanne was Dutch/Belgian

Kanne - is a small town in the southeastern part of the Belgian province of Limburg right on the border with the city of Maastricht in the Dutch province of Limburg. The town has 1156 inhabitants of which a significant part have the Dutch nationality.

Panoramio - Photo of Chateau de kanne et la frontière

Chateau de Kanne la nuit

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History

On the place where there was, according to the tradition, a kind of fortress of the Romans to defend the galleries under-terraines, which were under ground, one built later, on the western slope of the valley, strong Agimont. One does not know exactly when that took place, nor from which the name Agimont comes precisely. All that one knows it is that there was, with the Middle Ages, a Agimont family.
The first positive data on Neercanne goes back only to 1353. At that time there was certain Bertram van Liers which named itself: lord of the village.

So who was Hugh de Sanford - possibly Sandford or Saunford???

Hugh de Sandford was born in 1177 in N. Moreton,Berkshire,England. He died in 1233. He married Joan de Noers.
Joan de Noers [Parents] was born in 1180 in Great Missenden,Buckinghamshire,England. She married Hugh de Sandford.
They had the following children:
F i Christina de Sandford

Fine Rolls Henry III 18 HENRY III (28 October 1233–27 October 1234)

Oxfordshire. Concerning respite. Order to the sheriff of Oxfordshire to place in respite the demand of £10 that he makes from Brother Robert de Sandford, Master of the Knights of the Temple in England, by summons of the Exchequer for the market of Walshford in Yorkshire, until the king orders otherwise.

Church of St. Andrew, Sandford on Thames

Sandford Manor and the Knights Templars

Robert de Sandford’s descendent, Thomas de Sandford, was a Knight Templar and Chamberlain to King John.

The Templars had been founded in 1119 as one of the spiritual Orders of Chivalry, dedicated to prayer and poverty. By 1200 they had
become a league of rich and powerful warriors with ‘Temple Courts’ or Preceptorys all across Southern Christendom. About 1240, the Manor of Sandford was handed over by Thomas de Sandford to his fellow-Templars who established their headquarters, the Preceptory of the Templars of Oxfordshire, Hampshire and Berkshire there. They thereby became patrons of Littlemore Priory and took over right of presentation of the curacy.

‘The good Queen Maud, wife to King Stephen, gave the manor of Temple Covele or Cowley in this county to the Knights Templars. who made it a house of their Order, and placed a preceptor there, who was afterwards removed to Saunford; which manor these knights got possessed of by the bounty of Sir Thomas de Saunford knt... and soon after fixed here, as upon their dissolution did the Knights Hospitallers, this being the chief residence of a preceptor & brethren that had under their management most of the estates in Oxfordshire, Berkshire, Wiltshire &c. belonging to that Order.’ (Tanner, Notitia Monastica, ed. Nasmyth, Cambridge, 1787)

Sandford-on-Thames - is a village and Parish Council beside the River Thames in Oxfordshire just south of Oxford.

Sandford-on-Thames: St Andrew's Church

The church was founded in 1080, but was rebuilt in 1840. This photo was taken from the adjacent recreation ground

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In 1239 Sir Thomas de Sandford gave land to the Knights Templar enclave in Oxford's Temple Cowley. In the reign of Edward II the Templars were suppressed and in 1324 the Knights Hospitaller took over. In 1541 Henry VIII dissolved the order, and the land passed to Cardinal Sir Thomas Wolsey.

Westmorland - Sandford - Sandford History

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We shall find the question of the lordship of Sandford cropping up for the next hundred years. For the moment however it is sufficient to say that William de Sandford (the grantor of the wood at Sandford to de Veteripont) had done something whereby his son-in-law Thomas de Musgrave claimed and appears to have been in possession at the manor of Sandford and of a portion of the Sandford lands, but his (William's) son Robert de Sandford was still looked on by his overlords the Veteriponts as Lord at Sandford. This Robert de Sandford (who as we have seen bought back Sandford wood from the Veteriponts) witnessed a deed about Barton Mill in 1252 (36 Henry III) (b) In 1255/6 he held, or claimed, as did also Thomas de Musgrave, common pasture in Dufton, be1onging to the lands they held in Morton. (c)

Between the years 1250 and 1278 he granted to his eldest son Richard de Sandford 2 bovates of land in Morton which William de Brampton had held; Richard to hold them of his father for life paying 1d. at Christmas, and after his death to hold them of the chief lords. (d)

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Robert de Sandford also seems to have had a brother John, for in 18 Edward I (1290) is a grant of lands in Sandford from John, son of John de Sandford, to John de Helton, two of the witnesses being Richard de Warthecop and Henry his son. (a) This same John de Sandford is a witness to a chancery Inquisition taken at Westmorland by the King's orders at Michaelmas 1275, to enquire into an incident when Robert le Chamberlain, servant of Roger de Clifford the younger and Isabel his wife, was wounded by Thomas le Breton in the left hand so that he lost his hand, and was also wounded in the head with a shovel by the said Thomas le Breton, and also wounded by Ellis Rybill, and then beaten and left for dead. (b)

Robert de Sandford was succeeded by his eldest son Richard de Sandford, who as we have seen, was granted lands in Norton by his father and who is given as mesne lord of Sandford and part of Smardale in 1284.

Who was John de Bosco - de Bois - De Boys ? - possibly John Robert De Bosco... a relative of the Waterville's

A genealogical and heraldic dictionary of the landed gentry Volume 3 By John Burke, Sir Bernard Burke..

John Robert De Bosco

John Robert De Bosco (b. 1245, d. 1298)
John Robert De Bosco was born 1245 in Thorpe, Arnold Leicestershire, England, and died 1298 in Fersfield, Norfolk, England.

Children of John Robert De Bosco are: +William de Boys, b. 1270, Thorpe Arnold, England Arnold, England, d. date unknown.

Pedigree John de BOYS - Interesting he was a cousin to the Waterville's:

/ -- Robert de WATERVILLE (BOYS) (1103? - ?)
/ -- Ernald I BOYS (1129? - ?)
/ -- Ernald II BOYS (1159? - 1222+)
/ \ -- Emma le CHAMBERLAYNE + ====> [ 1]
/ -- Ernald (III; de) BOYS (Suffolk 1190? - by 1255)
/ \ -- Emma de HEDENTON (1161? - ?)
/ -- Ernald (IV?; of Thorpe Ernald) de BOIS (? - 1277)

John de BOYS

Sir Robert de Bois - 1268, Robert born in England, s/o 11820292. Robert de Bois.

Thorpe, Arnold Leicestershire, England - Google Maps - a suburb of Melton Mowbray near Nottingham and Leicester

Waltham on the Wolds - a village located in the civil parish of Waltham and Thorpe Arnold, in the Melton borough of Leicestershire, England, about 5 miles (8.0 km) northeast of Melton Mowbray and 11 miles (17.7 km) south-west of Grantham on the A607 road.

Thorpe Arnold - is a village in the English county of Leicestershire. Situated on the top of a hill close to the town of Melton Mowbray, Thorpe Arnold is a small farming village with roots going back to before its first recorded mention in the Domesday Book of 1086. At this time, the village and surrounding lands were in the possession of Hugo de Gentlemaisnell, whose successors were the Earls of Leicester , Thorpe (or Torp) was eventually settled on an Earl of Leicester’s steward named Ernauld de Bosco, four further generations of his family took the name Ernauld and this, it is widely believed, it how Thorpe Arnold got its name

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Gerry send me some interesting information that connects to some interesting people:

Hi,

I am a collector of Medieval charters and documents and one of the documents I have in my collection concerns a Grant of a rent between William de Wateville to John de Vallibus and his heirs of land in Hempstead, Essex, England, among the many witnesses named in the document is one Richard le Outlawe, the date of the document is circa 1260.

The document has a wonderful green wax seal showing a mounted knight [William de Wateville]

Hope this helps with your family history.

Best Regards Gerry B